Gilbert House Fellowship #232: Genesis 2:10-3:7

THE TREE in the middle of the garden proved to be a test and a trap—not just for Adam and Eve, but for the serpent as well.

This week, we discuss the location of Eden and explain why it was Jerusalem, based on the identities of the four rivers named in Genesis 2:10-13. We also talk about the relevance of the rivers Pishon, Gihon, Tigris and Euphrates to ancient cosmology, as reflected in Isaiah 47 and the ancient myth of the descent of Inanna (i.e., Ishtar, Astarte, Aphrodite, Venus, etc.) to the netherworld. 

The we dig into the relationship of Adam and Eve, why the serpent wasn’t a serpent, why the seraphim may be griffins, and why the cherubim are not feminine angels with graceful wings, much less chubby little flying babies.

Here is the link to the article by Dr. Nicolas Wyatt that Derek mentioned, “A Royal Garden: The Ideology of Eden” (link opens PDF document).


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17 Responses to Gilbert House Fellowship #232: Genesis 2:10-3:7

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  2. Beverly Schuck

    Thank you again.

  3. Sue Moore

    at 33:20

    God said if they eat of the tree they will surely die?

    Did Adam and Eve have any concept of death before that? Where did they get their concept of death?

  4. Chris Greene

    I heard you talk about Eyes Wide Shut. Have you seen this? http://www.theilluminatiball.com/

    • Interesting. For some, the dark powers of this world are nothing more than inspiration for entertainment.

      • David Potyok

        Derek, I think there is more to it than that. It seems like God has put in place a system that we (man) must be made know what the enemy is doing. Even God tells us His plans, they are in the Bible, but hidden so that the enemy cannot understand. Amos 3:7 – for the Lord God does nothing without revealing His plans to His servants the prophets. The enemy must foloow this rule too. Just my thought.

    • Lisa

      “It is not good that man should be alone. I will make him a helper suitable for him.” Just a thought as I read that verse, that those fallen entities would have watched as God created a mate for Adam. They watched as Adam and Eve had a relationship, had children…loved and acted on that love. They didn’t have that. They may have been jealous at the creation of Adam already, and now, jealousy over what they were “deprived” of. Predisposed to sin, how easy it would be to plot against their daughters. As time passed from the time those daughters were born until they were old enough to take for themselves, they had time for anger to really brew. They saw they were beautiful, but I wonder if it wasn’t a lot more, as in, revenge. They perverted sex and marriage, and introduced gender fluidity and homosexuality. The attack and plans against mankind was, and is, so much deeper than what we are taught about.

  5. Ann-Christin Haave

    I listened to this episode today and again, I was so blessed. Thank you so much for doin this study. It means a lot.

  6. holly

    I ve done reading on http://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/ for a long time . I ve come to ID Inanna as a tranny ‘her’ priests were eunuchs and they put on “rock shows” etc. She is called a goddess but has no feminine attributes she goes around conquering righteous celestial kingdoms and is inspired by lust. She tried to get Gigimsesh to marry her but he turned her down because all her lovers end up castrated or dead.
    Significantly the King list says the Kingship is lowered from Heaven. This happened before the flood and after the flood and when it does everything changes we get new government new laws new science new crafts and arts a new King new plants and new animals and new people!! 2 And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.

    3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.

    4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
    I love your studies so much thank you for all you do!!

  7. Barbara Floyd

    Very impressed with your wealth of information.Really enjoy listening and learning from you both.Thank you.

  8. Gail Poste

    My husband had a pretty brilliant thought on what the fruit was on the tree of knowledge of good and evil – a drug. A mind-bending, portal opening drug. For those of us who have done certain drugs, you can feel like you’re highly intelligent. I remember doing cocaine a couple times and felt like the universe was opening up to me. No wonder our Lord has a prohibition on Pharmakeia. When you think about it, this theory makes a lot of sense.

  9. Susan sullivan

    I can’t wait to hear the conference, I’m on Maui so I certainly won’t be heading in your direction to attend but I will be listening up and listening over in again. Thank you for your love and for your wonderful research and for your godly attitude and for sharing with us the deeper meat that’s in our Bibles and to get us thinking and taking on the mind of Christ thank you guys so much God bless you and protect you and your families

  10. Karleen Lewis

    Fellow you both on Skywatch..great info..thanks for all you guys ..listening and waiting for HIS return..

  11. Kathy Ruth

    Fascinating study. You brought out ideas I had never thought of before. I love listening.

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